Grimshaw, Progenitors of a Large Family in East Hampton, Long Island, New York

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Francis E Grimshaw was born in New York in about 1833. Frances A ("Fanny") Collum was also born in New York, in about 1839. Francis and Frances were married on September 22, 1857 in East Hampton, where they apparently settled and raised a large family of about 13 children, including Richard E, Mary J, William S, George B, Francis ("Frank") E, Frances ("Fannie") M, Samuel C, James H, John, Elijah C, Charles and Frederick Grimshaw. 

Francis E Grimshaw was apparently the son of Francis Grimshaw, Sr. and Mary (Sherman) Grimshaw. Francis Grimshaw, Sr. was born in England according to the 1880 U.S. Census record for Francis Jr. However, Mary Sherman was born in New York, indicating that Francis Sr. immigrated to the U.S. before marrying Mary Sherman. Research on the LDS FamilySearch website indicates that Francis Grimshaw, Sr. may have been the son of Richard D and Elizabeth (Bowker) Grimshaw. And Richard (b 1772) may have been the son of Mary Grimshaw and John Chapman. 

Webpage Credits

Marriage Record of Francis Grimshaw and Frances Collum

Montauk Deed from HeritageQuest, Reference 97

1860, 1870, and 1880 U.S. Census Records

Descendants of Richard E. Grimshaw, Oldest Son of Francis and Frances

Descendants of James Henry Grimshaw, seventh Son of Francis and Frances

Consolidated Descendant Chart for Francis and Frances Grimshaw

Possible Descendants of George B Grimshaw

Possible English Candidate for Francis Grimshaw, Sr, Immigrant

Map of Locations in England Indicated for Grimshaw Ancestors for Francis Grimshaw

Where is East Hampton, New York?

Montauk Point Lighthouse Pictures

New York Times Article, December 12, 1891, on Fire Loss

References

Thanks go to Tom Grimshaw and Mike Grimshaw for making contributions to this webpage on possible descendants of George B Grimshaw, son (fourth child) of Francis and Frances Grimshaw.

Francis Grimshaw and Frances Collum were married in East Hampton, New York on September 22, 1857 according to records of the Town of East Hampton¹. A copy of the record is shown below.

Portion of marriage records of East Hampton, showing marriage of Francis and Frances on September 22, 1857.

The following deed records were found on HeritageQuest. Several members of the Grimshaw are listed.

1860 Census Record

(http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/1860Census.htm)

The 1860 U.S. Census found Francis and Fanny living with their young son Richard and Bertha Rogers in East Hampton, New York. Francis' profession is shown as "Pedlar").

1870 Census Record

(http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/1870Census.htm)

1880 Census Record

(http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/1880Census3NYtoPA.htm) 

Census Place:	East Hampton, Suffolk, New York					NYC-6
Source:	FHL Film 1254935 National Archives Film T9-0935 Page 172B
	Relation	Sex	Marr	Race	Age	Birthplace
F. E. GRIMSHAW	Self	M	M	W	47	NY
Occ:	Farmer	Fa: ENG	Mo: NY
Frances GRIMSHAW	Wife	F	M	W	41	NY
Occ:	Keeping House	Fa: ENG	Mo: ENG
Richard E. GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	21	NY
Occ:	Farm Laborer	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Mary J. GRIMSHAW	Dau	F	S	W	19	NY
Occ:	At Home	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
William S. GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	18	NY
Occ:	Farm Laborer	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
George B. GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	16	NY
Occ:	Farm Laborer	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Frank E. GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	14	NY
Occ:	Farm Laborer	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Frances M. GRIMSHAW	Dau	F	S	W	12	NY
Occ:	At Home	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Samuel GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	11	NY
Occ:	At School	Fa: NY	Mo: NY
James H. GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	9	NY
Fa: NY	Mo: NY
John GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	7	NY
Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Elijah GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	6	NY
Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Charles GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	3	NY
Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Frederick GRIMSHAW	Son	M	S	W	1	NY
Fa: NY	Mo: NY
Maria BARNES	Other	F	S	W	81	NY

1880 Census Images from Ancestry.com

The following letter from the Edwin A. Grimshaw collection provides a bit of information on the descendants of the oldest son of Francis and Frances.

Grimshaw, Mrs. Fred A. – Englewood, Fla – (EAG 28)

April 14, 80

Dear Mr. E. A. Grimshaw –

Found your letter very interesting. Your branch of the family may go back to my husband’s grand fathers family. His grand father was Richard Edward Grimshaw and one of thirteen children – most of whom were boys.

He came to East Hampton, L.I.N.Y. at an early age, I believe 16, and as far as I know, always lived there and died at age 83. Don’t remember if he had been born in that area.

His only child, son, Chauncey Edward, D. had 2 sons. William John, killed in auto accident at age 21 and my husband, Fred A. (Frederick) D. 1979. We have 2 children; Richard John, living in Lititz, Pa and a daughter, Carol Baggett, living in Mesquite, Texas. Richard has 2 daughters, married, and one son, John Frederick, who is in the Air Force in Okla.

Since we moved from Long Island to Fla. 9 years ago, we often had people stop by to ask if we know Grimshaws from Mich, Boston etc. None of which were known to us.

Hope this may be of some help to you.

Mrs. Fred A. Grimshaw

(Marion H. Grimshaw)

470 Viridian St.

Englewood, Fla 33533

The following entry from a companion webpage on "Indicated Immigrants" provides a bit of information on the descendants of the James Henry Grimshaw, seventh son of Francis and Frances:

Linda M. Adams posted the following important message on the Grimshaw Family Genealogy Forum in August 2001:

Researching James Henry Grimshaw, 7th son of Frances Callum Grimshaw and Francis Grimshaw, Jr. of East Hampton, NY; grandson of Francis Grimshaw Sr. and Mary Sherman Grimshaw. James married Susan Dimon Filer (date unknown at this writing) producing 4 children, Russell Filer Grimshaw (my grandfather), Ruth, Edith and James Roland.

Having difficulty finding birth/death dates for all mentioned. Filer side of family documented in a publication "East Hampton History & Genealogies".

Anyone with positive information please contact me at kadams@bak.rr.com.

The above information permits the construction of the following preliminary descendant chart for Francis and Frances Grimshaw. Approximate birthdates are from the 1880 U.S. Census.

Francis Grimshaw, Sr., and Mary Sherman

|----Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 - ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 - ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY

|----|----Richard Edward Grimshaw (ca 1859 - ?)

|----|----|----Chauncey Edward Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----William John Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----Frederick A Grimshaw (? - 1979) & Marion H unknown

|----|----|----|----|---- Richard John Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Daughter 1 Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Daughter 2 Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- |----John Frederick Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- Carol Grimshaw & unk Baggett

|----|----Mary J Grimshaw (ca 1861 - ?)

|----|----William S Grimshaw (ca 1862 - ?)

|----|----George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 - ?)

|----|----Francis ("Frank") E Grimshaw (ca 1866 - ?) & Mary Mason

|----|----|----|----Francis Grimshaw (30 Aug 1891, New York, NY - ?) 

|----|----Frances ("Fannie") M Grimshaw (ca 1868 - ?)

|----|----Samuel C Grimshaw (ca 1869 - ?)

|----|----James Henry Grimshaw (ca 1871 - ?) and Susan Dimon Filer

|----|----|----Russell Filer Grimshaw

|----|----|----Ruth Grimshaw

|----|----|----Edith Grimshaw

|----|----|----James Roland Grimshaw

|----|----John Grimshaw (ca 1873 - ?)

|----|----Elijah C Grimshaw (ca 1874 - ?)

|----|----Charles Grimshaw (ca 1877 - ?)

|----|----Frederick Grimshaw (ca 1879 - ?)

The following hypothesized descendant chart has been prepared courtesy of Michael Grimshaw and his son, Thomas Grimshaw, in November 2007.

Francis Grimshaw, Sr., and Mary Sherman

|----Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 - ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 - ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY

|----|----George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 - ?) & Katherine Fullhardt? (? - 1946, Elmhurst, NY) [Could the B be for Bowker?]

|----|----|----Harry Jenet Grimshaw (3 Aug 1895, New York, NY - Nov 1948, Elmhurst, NY) & Catherine Quinlan (8 Jan 1900, New York, NY - 30 Nov 1972, Elmhurst, NY)

|----|----|----|----Thomas Francis Grimshaw (21 Oct 1921, New York, NY - ?) & Dorothy May Gray (21 Apr 1922, Larrimore, ND - ?). Married 28 Mar 1948, Oakland, CA

|----|----|----|----|---- Michael Grimshaw (19 Apr 1944, Oakland, CA - ) & Cindy Carroll (16 Sep 1958, Ft Worth, TX - )

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Thomas Earle Grimshaw (21 Oct 1969 - )

|----|----|----|----|---- |----James Michael Grimshaw (10 Nov 1989, Dallas, TX - )

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Joseph Ryan Grimshaw (4 May 1992, Dallas, TX - )

|----|----|----|----|---- Denise Ann Grimshaw (25 Feb 1947, Paris, France - ) & Jim Parson

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Michael Parson

|----|----|----|----|---- |----Chris Parson

|----|----|----|----|---- Thomasina Ann Grimshaw (3 Jun 1951, Pittsfield, NY - )

|----|----|----|----|---- Pete Carl Grimshaw (25 Jul 1952, Falls Church, VA - )

|----|----|----|----|---- Mary Elizabeth Grimshaw (26 Nov 1957, Arlington, TX - 1979, MT)

|----|----|----|----Harry Jenet Grimshaw (b 3 Aug 1925, New York, NY - ?) & Kay ?

|----|----|----|----|---- Larry Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- Tommy Grimshaw

|----|----|----|----|---- Harry Grimshaw

|----|----Frances ("Fannie") M Grimshaw (ca 1868 - ?)

The following photos are from Michael Grimshaw, October 2008...

Harry Grimshaw, 1907 (approximately 12 years old; son of George B and Katherine Grimshaw; grandson of Francis and Frances Grimshaw)

Harry Grimshaw, 1917, World War I (approximately 22 years old)

Catherine (Quinlan) Grimshaw, 1963, Elmhurst, L.I., N.Y. (wife of Harry Grimshaw)

Harold and Thomas Grimshaw, 1930, Elmhurst, L.I., N.Y. (sons of Harry and Catherine Grimshaw)

Thomas and Dorothy (Gray) Grimshaw, Wedding Photo; Married 28 March 1948 (son of Harry and Catherine Grimshaw; parents of Michael Grimshaw)

A possible candidate for Francis Grimshaw who immigrated to the U.S. has been identified from records at Family Search. Francis Bowker Grimshaw was born in right timeframe (1806) to be father of Francis Grimshaw (b. ca 1833). Frances E Grimshaw, grandson, gave four of his children the same names  - Richard, Francis, Samuel, and John - as the children of Richard (different birth order - John, Richard, Samuel and Francis).

Based on the records shown below, the parents of Francis Grimshaw, Sr, are proposed to be Richard D and Elizabeth (Bowker) Grimshaw.

Richard D Grimshaw may have been the son of Mary Grimshaw and John Chapman...

Shown below is the resulting descendant chart if all the above speculation is true.

John Chapman & Mary Grimshaw

|----Richard D Grimshaw (ch 10 or 19 Jul 1772, Blackley or Crumpsall - ?) & Elizabeth Bowker (ca 1773, Lancashire - ?). Married 1794, Manchester.

|----|----John Grimshaw (ch 30 Aug 1794, Cheetham - ?)

|----|----Richard Grimshaw (ch 15 Oct 1801, Cheetham - ?)

|----|----Samuel Bowker Grimshaw (12 Jan 1804, Cheetham - ?)

|----|----Francis Bowker Grimshaw, Sr. (ch 23 Mar 1806, Cheetham - ?) & Mary Sherman (Francis immigrated, married Mary Sherman, b in NY)

|----|----|----Francis E Grimshaw (ca 1833 - ?) and Frances A Collum (ca 1839 - ?). Married 22 Sep 1857, East Hampton, NY [Does the E stand for Edward?]

|----|----|----|----Richard Edward Grimshaw (ca 1859 - ?)

|----|----|----|----Mary J Grimshaw (ca 1861 - ?)

|----|----|----|----William S Grimshaw (ca 1862 - ?)

|----|----|----|----George B Grimshaw (ca 1864 - ?) [Does the B stand for Bowker?]

|----|----|----|----Francis ("Frank") E Grimshaw (ca 1866 - ?) & Mary Mason

|----|----|----|----Frances ("Fannie") M Grimshaw (ca 1868 - ?)

|----|----|----|----Samuel C Grimshaw (ca 1869 - ?)

|----|----|----|----James Henry Grimshaw (ca 1871 - ?) and Susan Dimon Filer

|----|----|----|----John Grimshaw (ca 1873 - ?)

|----|----|----|----Elijah C Grimshaw (ca 1874 - ?)

|----|----|----|----Charles Grimshaw (ca 1877 - ?)

|----|----|----|----Frederick Grimshaw (ca 1879 - ?)

Cheetham Hill, Crumpsall and Blackley, referenced in the above records, are all on the north side of Manchester, not far from Prestwich.

It seems likely that this family line is connected to one of the Prestwich Grimshaw lines (see companion webpage), but this hypothesis is based only on geographic proximity. Mary Grimshaw may be descended from one of the three family lines started by three apparent brothers, John, James and George Grimshaw, who initiated their families in about 1680.

East Hampton is in Suffolk County, on the east end of Long Island. Maps are shown below.

The two views of the lighthouse shown below represent contrasting moods at Montauk Point.

Source: http://www.laviano.net/East%20End%20of%20Long%20Island/index.htm

 

Source: http://gettingmarriedonlongisland.com/faq.php

Maps showing the location of Montauk Point are shown below.

The following article from the New York Times records a disaster that befell the Grimshaw family in December 1891. Fortunately the fire did not involve the family residence.

¹Anonymous, Records of the town of East-Hampton, Long Island, Suffolk Co. N. with other ancient documents of historic value. Sag-Harbor N. J. Hunt, printer, 1887-1957, 5091 pgs (Record #111 of Heritage Quest companion webpage)

²Smith, Raymond A., 1926, Montauk: East Hampton, N.Y.: The Town, 249 p. (Record #97 of Heritage Quest companion webpage)

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Webpage posted November 2004. Updated December 2004 with marriage record and preliminary descendant chart. Updated March 2007 with addition of NY Times article. Updated November 2007 with addition of descendant information from Michael and Thomas Grimshaw and with speculation on the English origins of Francis Grimshaw, Sr. Updated October 2008 with addition of photos of George B Grimshaw descendants from Michael Grimshaw. Updated March 2010 with change in lighthouse picture and completion of missing text.